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spinoza2

The Kindle Fire and the iPad are reflections of their potential markets in the US: The Fire is designed entirely around consumption, much like television, and is priced and intended as an inexpensive commodity item for the broad masses who passively digest media. The iPad, on the other hand, is more a powerful personal computer that acts as a platform for creativity and personal production. The iPad is designed for people who are active and engaged in life, who work, who are educated, and who are creative.

jessica darko

Bezos is all hype, no substance. Amazon commoditizes, it doesn't innovate. Apple innovates. People always claimed Apple was all marketing, but Bezos is the master snowballer. I'm amazed that reporters give them so much credit. Anyone who has worked at Amazon knows that the company culture is that of a retailer, not a tech company, and innovation is not rewarded nearly as much as ass licking.

Daniel Larsson

@jessica darko Rarely do I see anyone be so wrong. Amazon has more innovation under it's belt since inception then Apple has had since their. Steve Jobs said it himself -- he wasn't an inventor, he was a tweaker! Apple barely 'invented' anything themselves. Just took existing products, thought of ways to make them more user friendly and launched them as their own.

I am so tired of all the fanboys/fangirls wrongfully believing that Apple somehow 'invented' all sorts of things. Yeah. They invented themselves into 'almost bankruptcy' a few times and got bailed out by non other then Microsoft..

Jason Joel Thompson

@spinoza2 I love this narrative you've created for yourself. I can see you now, skipping through a sunny field, rainbows and puppies dancing at your feet, head held high, iPad held higher, free from the doldrums of life, vigorous, engaged, a robust, truly living being--your personal identity actualized by a pretty piece of consumer electronics. I am inspired.

oomu

@daniel larsson

Here are my 2 cents:

Apple invented a lot of things, mostly all high function in a graphical interface (drag'n drop, rules for menu, and so on) You could also speak about quickdraw, quicktime, newton and other stuff. In the 90s, the company was badly managed but not in bankruptcy (and never "a few times"). they still have billions in bank and are not even close to obsolescence.

Microsoft-Apple deal was two fold: Apple gained back Office, a necessity to sell computers, and Microsoft closed all their legal disputes with Apple.

Amazon is a good company. They made a lot in distribution and packaging to improve and innovate. For now, the "Kindle Fire" is walking in the steps of Apple.

oomu

My 2 cents (part 2):

As a matter of fact, Amazon and Apple are very similar. They are both focused on their core competences and their business. And the same country makes all their products (China).

The Kindle Fire is the repackaged Rim Playbook (it's a "grey" device sellers can re-made, by a Chinese company)

The "darker aspect" is ours: to strive upon the self-exploitation of Chinese people by Chinese people.

FGFM

@oomu

Indeed the darker aspects are all of our responsibility. Although, I would argue that using slave labor to make a product cheap so that it can be more widely distributed (Amazon) is a lot better than using slave labor to ensure huge profit margins (Apple).

Apple could easily afford to shave 25-30% off of their prices, or even better, pay their workers properly and ensure a safe working environment.

Our economic system is indeed bad (for most), and better alternatives exist, but Apple is definitely the "dark side" of this comparison and it appears that not even you deny that.

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